Discussion Class - Odysseus Ship

Discussion Class - Odysseus Ship

Imagine a man who is on a long journey on his ship. Part of his ship breaks so he chucks the bit of broken wood into the sea and replaces it with a new piece of wood. A bit further on, another bit of the ship breaks so once again he takes off the broken piece and replaces it with a new piece of wood. This continues this way until he reaches his destination and by this time every single piece of wood on the ship has been replaced with a new piece of wood.


The question for this discussion is:

Is it still Odysseus' ship? If not, when exactly did it become not his ship because no part of the ship is the one he started out on.

Reflect this to yourself and everyday life.


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Yes the ship is still Odysseus' ship. The ship was built by Odyssues which means that the ship still belongs to him. There is only one problem though, the improved ship isn't the same ship as the one her left on. Odysseus still owns the ship because he built it and payed for the materials. As Odysseus may not have built the ship he set on himself the new ship is more his than the old one. The only thing that is different about the whole journey is that there is a different ship.
Yes the ship still belongs to Odysseus making it Odysseus' ship

Pickles said exactly what I was thinking: the thing that make's it Odysseus; ship is the fact that he owns it.

In my opinion, if Odysseus was borrowing Pandora's ship and made all the repairs it wouldn't be pandora's ship anymore. I say this because she owned the physical ship, and all the peices of wood that made it up. If none of her peices are there than it is technically not her ship anymore.

With what Polly said about the stained shirt. If you decide to buy a new shirt, that is your shirt, not the friend you borrowed the orginals from. You would have to give them the shirt as a gift to make it theirs. And the stained shirt is stil there's as well.

If you bought it, or got it, or received it, it's yours. So Oysseus would have to give the ship to Pandora for it to be hers, because he bought all the peices.

I agrree with Polly on the fact of Pandoras' ship. The ship would never belong to Odysseus iuf he borrowed it off Pandora, if Odysseus borrowed the shiip from Pandora and broke it he would have to replace it, the replacement would never be his. the replacement would be Pandoras.

The ship would belong to Pandora if Odysseus broke and replaced it. The ship wouldn't ever belong to Odysseus if it was BORROWED the replacement would be borrowed from Pandora until such times as it was given back.