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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Nov 30 2006, 15:45

Double posting due to wanting to start the discussion on voldemort lol

So many people hate this character, and dont get me wrong, so do I, but if we didnt hate him then JK would not have done her job well lol

Yes, this character is a nasty piece of work, but he is also one of the most complex characters in the series right from before the moment he found out that he was a wizard.

Although I think that some of the pensieve parts within HBP are quite tedious, they give us a huge insight into the mind and life of Tom Riddle before he became Voldemort.

I also think that there are even more deeper meanings within these memories and concepts in which we might have first ignored that will surface and explain themselves fully within the final book
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Nov 30 2006, 15:48

I agree. Voldemort is quickly thrown down as being evil and just that but he is so rounded and full of depth and mystery that he just cant be ignored.

I am like you with the memorie bits in Dumbledores office - they did become a bit boring at times, though I think tha they helped with understanding tom better
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Nov 30 2006, 19:57

THey showd us that deep down he is a person (or was one). He is pure evil htough and he cant be reddemed. I hope that he dies in the end and that everybody else learns the lesson that good will always beat evil

What was everybody's favorite memory?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyFri Dec 01 2006, 04:13

It also showed that he was evil before he knew magic as such (with the taking the chidren to the cave and that). I think that is possibly my favourite memory - when Dumbledore first approached him. I think that one memory alone tells us a lot
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyFri Dec 01 2006, 13:35

That was really interesting... It showed us that he knows nothing but cruelity, and he has dont nothing else. If he was doing Dark Magic intentionally at such a young age, that cant be a good thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 13 2006, 06:13

Pure evil with no chance of ever turning around. That is what Voldemort is. He has always been destructful and took joy in hurting others at an early age. I guess it is the Salazar blood in him. Too bad because Merope really didn't seem to bad. She was pushed around by her brother and Father and I think without them in her life she may have turned out OK and then Tom/Voldemort may have been a better person.

I am hoping he will die in the end. Good has to win over evil, otherwise the story will never end.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 13 2006, 14:37

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I am hoping he will die in the end. Good has to win over evil, otherwise the story will never end.

Beautifully written! BRAVO! lol. I think that that is so true. The 7th book, well actually the whole serie sis all about conquereing good over evil and i think that Nancy has a point saying the story won't be over if Voldy lives. Dont get me rong I was hoping all alon ghe would die, but that just makes more sense, I reason to deny the possible death of Harry.

lol. did that makes sense?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 13 2006, 14:39

lol yeah, it makes sense. But I think there's more to him just being killed. Like a new twist. I mean, JK wouldn't make it that obvious that he'll die, there has to be more to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 13 2006, 14:41

yea, but its really impossible to figure out isn't it? we dont know hat Jo has thought of and i doubt it will be ordinary, if he does die, as i have mentioned before I think a potion can do it, becasue of the whole wands thing. By the way why did he capture ollivander?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Dec 14 2006, 15:37

It hasn't been proven or dis-proven that deatheaters or voldemort have taken ollivander although it is my belief he has, possibly to force answers out of him about their wands (his and Harrys) and perhaps get it 'fixed' so it didnt cause the reverse spell effect again
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Dec 14 2006, 16:17

Voldemort's an evil character. I liked how we got an insight into his past, and saw that he had been evil from a young age in book six.

There's no redemption for this character, and those fics where people make him become a 'better person' are pretty silly, in my opinion.*

Voldemort is evil to the core and deserves everything Harry is going to throw at him in book seven.

*(However, I don't mind when Voldemort is openly mocked, for example in the wonderful "This Means War" by Jeconais and "Naked Quidditch Match" by Anya. Mocking is allowed, but serious redemption is not.)
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyFri Dec 15 2006, 16:29

I agree. DO you think he was born evil or decided to become it
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 20 2006, 16:34

Personally I dont believe that you are born evil. I believe that he harbored so much hatred towards his muggle family which grew and grew over the years into what we see now
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyWed Dec 20 2006, 16:52

But why would he hate them? He didn't know he was any diffrent and we know the was evil before he found out he was a wizard.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptySun Dec 31 2006, 09:16

He may have hated his father for he left his mother
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyMon Jan 01 2007, 19:17

How would he know that he abandoned his mother, did the orphanage lady say so?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyFri Jan 19 2007, 15:26

I dislike Voldy alot. He is an impostant character and I can't see how
u can dislike him vbecause everyone else does. I think hes a great
charcter to the story but mean!
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyMon Feb 19 2007, 18:21

I want Voldemort to die in the last book
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptySun Jul 08 2007, 12:18

I truly think that voldemort will die in the next book but I also like his character a lot. Not as a fully grown wizard I think he is awful and horrible but as a boy I felt sorry for him. He felt out of place but yet got please out of causing people pain. This may sound strange but sometimes I understand how he feels I enjoy hurting people who have hurt me. And yet I love the character Tom Riddle but not lord voldemort.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyTue Oct 30 2007, 10:12

poor voldy as much as i say it i feel sad for the guy, he had a sad life and he was an orphin.sad his life was very sad indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptySun Dec 30 2007, 13:33

I like the way he died. Because he was offered a saving grace and turned it down. I also like that he was killed when he htought he was in top of the world. It just goes to show that you can never be too sur eof yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Jan 03 2008, 14:57

If voldie had had some remorse like harry asked, he most likely would have been killed anyway though because like hermione said remorse is the only way to put the soul back together and chances are it's going to kill you.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyThu Jan 03 2008, 18:14

I don't think Harry ever really thought that Voldy was going tio feel remorse.. I didn't when I read it.. I knew he would refuse.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptySat Jan 05 2008, 14:39

same, I was just saying that even if he DID feel remorse he probably would have been killed anyway
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyMon Jan 07 2008, 14:35

Yeah defintly... But I was tinking do you think he could feel remorse? It's like asking if he could love. We know he didn't but could he?
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptyMon Jan 07 2008, 14:40

I don't think so...I think he's lost all sense of love and his concious has been long gone as well because otherewise he wouldn't have been able to do the things he'd done.
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PostSubject: Re: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort   Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort EmptySat Mar 12 2011, 17:49

I think Voldemort is the ultimate villain. He has no redeeming qualities at all; he turned his tragic childhood into bitter anger and twisted ideals and feels no remorse, love or grief for anyone. It's actually quite sad to think about. I mean, most villains have at least one or two good qualities hidden somewhere deep down but Tom really turned everything that happened to him as a kid into pure hate and an obsession with becoming immortal and conquering the world at any cost.
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