Unforgivable Curses - “A Necessary Evil”? – Discussion 2

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Throughout the books we saw many people from the claimed ‘good’ side use these kind of magic which has always been considered evil, even forbidden by the magical law.

Do you agree with the use of these Curses? Do the ends justify the means? Or you’re totally against the use of this kind of magic and think the user should be punished?

In this discussion besides the questions above I want you to focus on your feelings towards the unforgivable curses. What if it was you these curses were being used on?

Think carefully and remember to always respect other opinion even if it’s strongly opposed to yours.

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Yeah I agree with the Unforgivable Curses - You do the crime you do the time yes? So if the punishment meets the needs then by all means go for it.

I think the Unforgivable Curses depends on what you are using it on. If you are using it in defending yourself in dueling, then it's not as serious of 'bad' as like how the Death Eaters use them because they don't use it for defending, they use it because most of them like the feeling of making other people hurt. For example, when HP used it on Bellatix in the DoM in the OotP book, that is kind of considered 'bad' because he only wanted the person to feel pain, not to defend. So I think it actually depends on what you use it for and when you use it to see whether or not it is actually 'bad' Although overall, these curses should be used only as a last resort.

I am not completely against the Unforgivable curses. The Imperius curse is the one that I have the biggest problem with. It seems like the lesser of evils being grouped with the killing and torture curses but I see it as the worst.
I don't see Avada Kedavra and Crucio as the worse spells because people are going to kill and torture other people whether there is a spell for it or not. It makes it easier, but it's going to happen either way.
I am a big fan of free will, and the Imperius curse takes that away. It lets someone else completely control your every move, you are nothing but a pawn for them to move around. Without the curse, you can't really make that happen, so I see it as the greater evil.

I don't see why people think it's all right for the dark side to use the curses but think it is horrible for the good side to use them. I don't think it's okay for any side to use them but it is unfair to think it's all right for someone like Voldemort to use them and not someone like Harry. It's only fair that both sides can use them, if not, that can hinder their ability to fight and defend themselves. They may be killed because they had the chance to stop the person but didn't take it because they were scared of using one of the curses.

I am against it. Why use them they where created just to hurt and kill others. I dont even think that you should use them to defend yourself. There are a whole bunch of other spells just like that like the shield charm. That charm can protect you from a whole lot of things.

stephy wrote:: I am against it. Why use them they where created just to hurt and kill others. I dont even think that you should use them to defend yourself. There are a whole bunch of other spells just like that like the shield charm. That charm can protect you from a whole lot of things.

Yeah but what about punishing someone? I mean you wouldn't send them to Azkaban for a fist fight and have them get the Dementors Kiss - why not just use 'Crucio' so they learn not too use it?

No I do not agree with the curses. You should never use those kinds of curses on anyone and if you do then you deserve to spend the rest of your life in Azkaban!

There's a reason they are called Unforgiveable Curses because if a witch or wizard were to use them it would be an abomination to our world!

I think that the curses are terrible! Think what it would be like if someone did any of them on you!

The Cruciatus Curse is so terrible! To be put through that much pain at the expense of someone having fun is just sickening!

The Avada Kadavra Curse is the most terrible! To take one's life is so terrible to think of doing! OMG! I can't believe some people would actually think of doing that!

The Imperius Curse is also terrible! To make someone do something when they're not even aware that they are doing it is just down right mean!

I am torn with my feelings on this matter, because part of me aggrees, and part dissaggrees.
In the cases of He-Who_must_Not-Be_Named's Death Eaters, they are only using the curses to cause pain, and to kill and controll innocent people. This is one of the cases that is totally wrong, and how they find it funny, I will never really know.
However, lets say, you wanted to controll a death eater to be a spy, then the imperius curse may be used and it is forgivible, because you are not using the curse to make the person commit suicide, or make them a prisioner in their mind. You probally also arent destroying their reputation, since you would need them to get the information and feed it back to you.
The killing curse is never really "forgivible", as Dumbledore believes that once you use it, it destroys your soul. (I think that was it...) Also, you are taking a life, and that is wrong in any time or place, and any situation. However, if the Minstry wished to place a death penalty, I think the killing curse would be the best way to go about it, as it is quick and painless.
The cruciactius curse, should be used only as a last resort, such as if someone else is usng it against you. I feel this is the possibly worst of all the curses, and I feel this one has no good at all hidden in it, (like the killing curse does), as all this one does is cause pain, and possible insanity.

I am also against the use of all three unforgivable curses. Avada Kedavra is obviously horrible because taking someones life is dugusting no matter how you do it. However, I think crucio is the worst. Causing someone unendurable pain is just gross to think about. Think of what happened to Neville's parents. Driven insane by it. I'd rather be dead. As for the imperius curse. I think this is the least bad becasue you can fight it. And you can practice fighting iot. However that does not excuse it's use.

I agree with the unforgivible curses because if you use them you do the time in azkaban but only if you get court but thats why i'm against them because the amount off wiches and wizards that have been put in st mungo's hospital because of them and also killed its just a short way of killing wizards and witches short and painless avada kedavra the killing curse and crucio is just a way to send someone insane and a way of dying of painfull death and imperio is just a way to control people's minds.

I think the Unforgivable Curses must be taken into a very different consideration in comparison to Muggle treatments.

For instance, I feel pulling the trigger on someone is a lot harder than using Avada Kedavra. Shooting someone means you hear them writhe in pain and you see them bleed. Avada Kedavra does not have effects such as this that could traumatize a murderer or cause guilt. The use of Avada Kedavra disconnects a murderer from the effects of his/her actions.

With that being said, I do find them terrible curses. I completely disagree with Rowling's decision to have Harry use the Imperius Curse on people. In the 5th book, he cannot use the Cruciatus Curse because he does not let the horror run through his body. now, by book seven, he has enough hatred and anger in him to use the Imperius Curse? I don't know, I found it to be an easy plot fix.

In relation to the Dementor's Kiss, that punishment is supposed to be considered far worse than death. It is a torturous form of death because it forces you to live without a soul and without emotion. This punishment truly exists for the most evil and darkest of witches and wizards.

Using an Unforgivable Curse as punishment for someone using an Unforgivable Curse is completely going against the principle that two wrongs don't make a right.

These arguments definitely parallel those revolving around the death penalty. I am of the opinion that the death penalty should be administered only to those who suffer no guilt or shame for the murder they have committed. One who would suffer the thoughts of their own conscience should be kept alive to think about what he/she has done over and over again. However, I do not really know how feasible that is.

Perhaps using legilimency, one could read how guilty someone feels about the crime he or she has committed using an Unforgivable Curse. If feeling guilty, throw them in Azkaban (which I believe has now been reinstated without Dementors, but feel free to correct me on DH knowledge). If feeling no guilt, administer the curse upon them to try to inflict some guilt.

As you can see, I'm very torn on this issue.

Perhaps one can say...where would we stand if those "curses" were not in use. It is my belief that the were deemed "Unforgivable" because of their widespread use amongst the death eater crowd. However much in the scenario of life or death, where someone is pitted to kill you, you would count on everything in your library of spells, much like I would count on using everything I could in the means to get away with my life or my family's life intact.

In an effort after Voldemort's first demise, the ministry went on a rampage and arrested Death eater after death eater, with an almost certainty of prison. I'm quite sure that they were around long before the death eaters, however infamy would dictate they had a great deal to do with it. But where would be if we weren't able to be in someway connected with our own humanity? Harry experienced this...and even though his anger at Bellatrix was renowned he still wasn't able to perform that spell to it's full potential. It wasn't until someone close to him was viciously embarrassed that he employed it's usage. Could he have used a stunning spell, I'm sure of it - however he was able to connect with his own humanity to know what the spell did and how it affects those who cast it.

What I'm getting at here is this...There should be one unforgivable curse - the AV or the curse for murder. The one where you need to look in your opponents eyes and watch as their life leaves their body. Should punishment be invoked for usages of the other two...I believe so under circumstances dictated life or death.

I would say it was necessary if used in a lawful way but it somone uses it for evil then it should be banned and punished right?

Avada Kedavra - if I was being threaten by a dark wizard or even a muggle with a broken bottle I would use the spell coz it would be self defence wouldn't it, but with wizards like the Death Eaters, they kill for greed, power and for fun.

Crucio - say the MOM used Crucio on a captured death eater or for Law enforcement, using the spell on them may make them spill on Death Eater plans, unknown death eaters, spys and even voldamorts place of hiding, But Death Eaters could also use this spell againest the MOM

Imperius - The MOM could use this spell to force high ranking Death Eaters to spy on the others or even try to kill the Dark lord, but when death eaters use it, they use it to steal and murder

so u can say the Unforgivable curses are evil when used by people who uses them for self greed but when somone uses them for the greater good and self defence, any one wanting to talk to me in more depth just PM me

I agree with most things that have been said before, and I must admit that like some of you, I am torn between various points. Right now, I'll just go with what I think at this very moment.

In my opinion, there are no reasons to use any of the Unforgivable Curses at all. They are, after all, not entitled as such for nothing! It might often be the case that the ends justify the means, but concerning this problem, I would not say so. This opinion is based on the fact that the Unforgivable Curses do effect the caster as well as the victim.

I'll start off with the Killing Curse. We have learned that a person who casts this will destroy their soul in the process, so if you are willing to kill by it, you are willing to lose one of your most precious parts. Does that in itself not suggest a certain prevention from the good side? Does it not show a minimum of evil in the caster? Of course you could say that there are situations where you need to defend yourself, but in my opinion there are many better ways to do so than to give away part of your soul.

Concerning the Cruciatus Curse, I can only stress the above point further. You need the will to seriously hurt the person, you need to be able to stand seeing, hearing, experiencing them suffer unbearable pain. This can never be a question of simple self-defence, at least not in my opinion. This is the main reason why I find it impossible how carelessly Harry uses this curse in DH. It's not like he had a reason to seriously hate the Death Eater who spat at McGonagall, unless I missed something really important. So he should have been punished for the use, be it a war or not.

But, as has been voiced before, the Imperius Curse is the actual worst curse of those three. It has been stated that there would be other methods to kill or torture, but none to possess a person's mind, and I fully agree with this opinion. I cannot bring myself to agreeing to Hybrid_wizard and kathrineee_anne's statement of it being a useful spell to make someone a spy, because either someone cooperates as a spy or they don't, and forcing them to do so can't be justified by simply saying that you are doing it 'for the greater good'. Mind you that this was the guideline of dear Grindlewald! Does this justify his doings?
We weren't, after all, given a free will for nothing, there have been reasons to fight for democracy and such, so suppressing this in such mentally violent ways should not be accepted by anybody.

Imagine you were perceived as a bad person by somebody, be that truth or not: Would you like to suffer the Cruciatus Curse, a curse you know has driven people mad from pain, or else at least seriously tormented them? Would you like to die with your murderer looking you in the eye coldly, without any chance to survive? Would you be fine with your mind being controlled, you having barely no chance to fight it? Would you think it okay that others could demand you to do whatever they please while you have no possibility to choose either obedience or disobedience? Would you agree with all of this treatments because somebody judges that you deserve them? And if so, what if you didn't do whatever evil they think you did?
Personally, I would strongly oppose to all this, because I always imagine how it might feel to have the curses used on me, for alleged reason which might not eben be truthful.

All those points make me think that there isn't any necessarity to use the Unforgivable Curses under any circumstances, thus considering it the only acceptable choice to punish everyone who used any of the three. Of course, however, I do not believe that a cruel Death Eater who killed for the fun of it should receive the same punishment as a young parent who killed an offender when trying to protect their child. The circumstances of the usage should be examined and pondered as cautiously as possible, leading to a sentence adequate to the accusation.
But it should never occur that a person who used an Unforgivable Curse remains unpunished. In the Muggle world, we have penalties for self-defence, too, because it can never be excused to hurt or even kill a person, it can only be judged more mildly. Imagine yourself the spouse, sibling or anything similar of someone killed by Avada Kedavra - the caster says they were defending themself or somebody else, they might even be able to prove that. Would that make you accept that the person will be getting away without retribution? I guess it would not, at least not when considering my personal point of view. So there has to be some form of punishment. If there isn't, in the end everybody will be able to say that they did it for some 'greater good', and who are we to judge whether their greater good is more or less reasonable than what we define as a rightful greater good?

Consider these thoughts and ponderings and tell me your opinion, please.

I would not personally use any of the unforgivable curses because I can not think of a scenario where they would be necessary, even in self defense. I feel that it is pointless to argue that people should never use them because it is pretty obvious that people have used and will always use them.

I also think that the reason why it doesn’t seem as horrible when Death Eaters use them is because the “good” people are supposed to be above that kind of behavior and capable of achieving what they want in a morally acceptable way, but each side should be punished no matter what their reasons were.

I feel that the use of these spells should be punished according to the reason why they were used, but like I said earlier, I do not see a justifiable reason to use them at all. There is such a large array of spells that can be used to stop someone from injuring others and the unforgivable curses are obviously only used for malicious reasons.

I do not think it would be appropriate to use the unforgivable curses as a punishment for anything, especially as a punishment for using the curses themselves. The dementor’s kiss is punishment enough for super, super serious crimes. I agree with Kat in saying that two wrongs do not make a right and I feel that it is hypocritical to use something like the Cruciatus curse to show people that they shouldn’t use these curses.

I would not want these curses used on me so I am glad people have been locked up in Azkaban for using them, but the truth of the matter is that people use them and escape punishment, and unless there is some way of making curses obsolete or impossible to use, we can only hope that people will take upon themselves to abstain from using the unforgivable curses.

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I agree with the unforgivables to a certain point. (No, this has nothing to do with my *slight* obsession witht the crucio curse) But, c'mon, think about it. the Advera Kedvera curse is a lot simpler than any other forms of execution that i have ever thought about or heard of. Imperio can also be helpful to a certain extent, of course, you would have to use all of them with extreme cation. One little mishap could certainly be deadly....

on the other hand....curses like 'crucio' and 'advera kedvera' can be just extremely ....sick to use. Why would you want to be able to torture someone into insanity? [Isn't the human race crazy enough!?!] And the power to just be able to mutter two words, if you have enough hate of course, and be able to take someone's life so easily. It's disgusting. Imperio, while being able to help in some areas, could be also used for the works of evil. To have someone completely under your control! Just imagine what you could possibly make them do...

We've mostly seen these curses being used for evil within the HP books, so I do think that might be swaying some of my thoughts toward 'they're evil' but, trying to be openminded, I think we should give them a chance within the justice system in the magical world.

With that said, I also think when just random people use them for the pure reason of just wanting to kill or torture, you do the crime, you do the time. No one should just be allowed to use them 'because'. There should definately be a vaild reason.

I'm torn....

In my opinion unforgivable curses are called such because the way you see most people using them is unforgivable. Usually, unforgivable curses are used by Death Eaters and followers of Voldemort and of course Voldemort himself. They use these curses for fun and for no apparent reason except for that they are not purebloods. This situation is a lot like Hitler and World War II. You think someone is not worthy of being human because of what they look like or where their magic comes from and you annihalate them. To use them against the evils is not as terrible as for fun but they should be a last resort. There are spells just as bad like sectesempra and other things. I think to defeat the dark arts you have to know to them to dislike them.

I agree with a lot of what has been said throughout the discussion so far. It is true that the Unforgivable Curses are so named because once you've used one against another wizard you cannot be forgiven. As Mad-Eye says in Goblet of Fire, the use of any one of them against other human being is "enough to earn a life sentence in Azkaban" (GOF, 217). This sentence is understandable considering the fact that only three curses have ever earned such a title, they clearly go above and beyond the normal realm of retaliatory or defensive magic. Additionally, if you look at the three of them they are completely deplorable in their actions, torture, control, and killing, they basically are the mantra of the Death Eaters. The question is, how do you defend yourself against these curses without using them yourself? What else could Professor McGonagall do when faced with the Carrows in Ravenclaw Tower during Deathly Hallows? If she hadn't used Imperius against them, the entire defense against Voldemort may never have happened, which begs the question are their extenuating circumstances that require the use of such curses? I find it hard to defend the use of Crucio on anyone, given that there are other ways to defend oneself against unwanted curses. Bellatrix Lestrange clearly displays the utter madness behind a torture curse, it's almost to sick to imagine using on someone. I cannot find any defense for using a curse that is so powerful and deadly that it put Neville's parents in St. Mungo's for the rest of their lives. The same can be said for Avada Kedavra. There are other things you can do besides killing someone, but when your back is against the wall and its kill or be killed, there doesn't seem to be any other solution. The same goes for Imperio, some situations demand its use for the betterment of a higher cause, as displayed multiple times in Deathly Hallows. So much of the time isn't it about the feeling behind the use of curses and the reason? It isn't always cold-hearted, Death Eater glee. Harry felt awful after using an Unforgivable Curse, but he knew it had to be done in some instances. It all comes down to the situation. People like the Order would never use these curses regularly, but they can recognize when a situation is dire enough for their uses, without getting hooked on their use after a few power kicks from using them. As Dumbledore and Sirius would say, it's all about the person, not the act. With a genuine heart, you have enough control over yourself to not let the Unforgivables get to you and let them take over, even if you use them once or twice. People like Harry and the Order recognize when it's appropriate but know when to stop before it goes too far.

Okay...I agree with both sides of this argument thus far, more or less. Yes, Unfogiveable Curses are bad and maybe the world would be better without them. However, I do agree that they are necessary. It really does depend on the person using them and in what situation they are being used. The curse, nomatter how bad, I beleive is absolutely neccesary nomatter what anyone says is the Killing Curse. The one I think is not neccesary is the Imperius Curse. But, yes I think that they are a neccesary evil, but are not always great and the Ministry is so right to put such restrictions on them.

"The end justifies the means." Simple, easy, effective way for one to shunt their conscience to the background. The major question should be, how would someone deal with a person who truly doesn't care? Causing the uncaring person pain in any way, whether by the Crucio Curse or by mundane torture, wouldn't really change their mind. If anything, it would intensify their hatred against those who used caused pain to them in the first place. Shattering a mind through sheer pain doesn't help, either. That only reduces the victim to a babbling idiot, a drain on society at large.
Using the Imperio Curse on someone to force them to do anyting is a violation of a basic right of any sentient creature: the right to seek self-fulfillment. Eventually, free will shall win out, either because their will is strong or because the caster's attention wavers, and your former puppet can now spill the bean on you.
Avada Kedavra is rather inane, if one thinks about it. there are so many ways to kill these days that using magic to do it is rather redundant. Why nolt just throw your opponent in front of a raging dragon, or use a sword? Either way is a bit easier than sacrificing part of your soul to do the same with a spell.
As for if said curses were to be used on me, my point of view is slightly skewed. Pain heals, chicks dig scars, death is ineveitable.
In summary, there are so many ways to do things other than use these curses, it's rather pathetic that people resort to them in the first place.

The Unforgiveable curses should only be used if A.Someone is trying to kill you or stun you B.AGAINST VOLDEMORT!!!!!! OR IF YOU ARE A SUPPORTER AGAINST PEOPLE WHO DONT LISTEN TO TO YOU OR AGAINST HARRY POTTER which in my case is the person who deserves to take down Voldemort! DOWN WITH VOLDY![/url]

Rockheart wrote:: "The end justifies the means." Simple, easy, effective way for one to shunt their conscience to the background. The major question should be, how would someone deal with a person who truly doesn't care? Causing the uncaring person pain in any way, whether by the Crucio Curse or by mundane torture, wouldn't really change their mind. If anything, it would intensify their hatred against those who used caused pain to them in the first place. Shattering a mind through sheer pain doesn't help, either. That only reduces the victim to a babbling idiot, a drain on society at large.
Using the Imperio Curse on someone to force them to do anyting is a violation of a basic right of any sentient creature: the right to seek self-fulfillment. Eventually, free will shall win out, either because their will is strong or because the caster's attention wavers, and your former puppet can now spill the bean on you.
Avada Kedavra is rather inane, if one thinks about it. there are so many ways to kill these days that using magic to do it is rather redundant. Why nolt just throw your opponent in front of a raging dragon, or use a sword? Either way is a bit easier than sacrificing part of your soul to do the same with a spell.
As for if said curses were to be used on me, my point of view is slightly skewed. Pain heals, chicks dig scars, death is ineveitable.
In summary, there are so many ways to do things other than use these curses, it's rather pathetic that people resort to them in the first place.

I do in deed agrree for these resons useing an unforgivable curse at time can be use full if its for good but im going with Rockheart here, there are better ways to ( i wouldnt say have the bads ones do it ) to cause havic or to kill some one, is it worth it to say torture someone by a silly curse, i mean use it in ascaban to get them a leson instead of just sitting there waiting to get brocken free and then use a curse again just to cause more havic.

sorry if i cant spell lol.

An Unforgivable Curse is an easy way to torture, control, or even kill someone without lifting a finger. Though unpleasant, they're easy to perform. While it is discouraged, I believe there are circumstances in which it is okay to use these. Maybe there are other ways to do things, but if you want a quick, simple, solution then these are at hand and ready to be used at anytime.
And while I wouldn't use them myself -except in dire circumstances- I do believe that there will be times where they might be used. Things such as a robbery, an attemtped kidnapping, being alone with no other weapon but your wand and being attacked. These are the ugly parts of life we don't like to think about but it is possible.
You might not want to use the 'Avada Kedavra' but the 'Cruciactus and the Imperius could be used to thwart off a predator.
Imagine yourself walking alone, at night, having nothing but just your wand. Someone jumps out of the darkness and attacks you. You become scared and you can't think straight. You are in danger! You could use any old spell, but when your anger is building and you want that predator to back off then you will not think twice about using a curse. Impulse and Adrenaline will be the fuel for this discission.
So yes, these curses really shouldn't be used for revenge and petty things, but if it comes to your life, your kids' lives, your loved ones' lives; on the line, then these curses just might pop into your mind.

Maybe it's just because I've got a broad world view, but I believe that one can overcome any distractions to keep one's mind clear enough to avoid using the Unforgiveable curses.

All three unforgivable curses are vile in my opinion. However, I don't understand why those are the only three. Sectumsempra is an unbelievably violent curse. There are others out there that are just as bad if not worse. Personally I was very disappointed when I read the section of Deathly Hallows in which McGonagall uses the Imperius Curse. Harry is young, and perhaps as he got older thought of the implications of using unforgivable curses. I hope he felt remorse over his use of Crucio. However, I think that McGonagall should have been a little more level headed. It would have been best if she stunned the Carrows, took their wands, and imprisoned them by some means.

I am definitely most disturbed by the concept of the Imperius Curse. The thought of mind control has always frightened me a lot. The pain of torture eventually ends (even if the end result doesn't). Avada Kadavra is an end, and sometimes a welcome one for some people. The imperius curse, however, is (in my opinion), one of the worst spells ever invented.

Do you agree with the use of these Curses? Do the ends justify the means? Or you’re totally against the use of this kind of magic and think the user should be punished?

I believe curses should be able to be used. There are several situations that I know of in which people would use it to help better society. I feel that only when its to make the world a better place should the curses be used or when its absolutely necessary. There are several people in jail that I know I would love to curse and finish what was once started.

While I find that an Unforgivable Curse could be useful and help the public, muggles and wizards alike, I also find them wrong to use. While they could be useful in things like a riot or a dangerous situation, when peoples lives are at risk, something like 'Imperius' could be used. However I doubt that they are really needed, and thoughout the books, seem to cause more harm than good. If the curses should be used, it should only be when it is needed, and if you were to cast one of the curses, you should be punished unless it was in a situation where it was demanded. I see theses curses as wizard guns-superfluous, but everyone seems to use them these days.

I really don't know whether to make out the Unforgivable Curses as good, or evil. It really depends on the situation that you happen to be in. For instance, you are being attacked by an unknown stranger, I think that ONE Crucio wouldn't be that bad, but only to subdue your attacker. The curse that I think is the most terrible, though, is Imperio, due to the fact that it can force you to act against your will. I believe that in certain situations Avada Kedavra is also acceptable, but only in a situation when your life is threatened. Hannah is right in the fact that the curses are like guns, but I also disagree in one aspect. With a gun, there someimes are effects that can leave you in a life that's not worth living, like the effects of being over Crucioed, but at least with Avada Kedavra, your death is quick and painless.

I do kinda agree with the curses. First, if the curse is used only defend yourself then yeah, use it only if needed...But if you use it just to have fun and to see the person in pain then no the curse shouldn't be used. Secondly, if you do use the curses to afflict pain on someone you should get in trouble because there isn't a good reason why your using it.

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