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PostSubject: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri May 12 2006, 03:57

why did the book name change? i meaan he was a philosopher, not just a sourcerer, so why did they change the name?
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri May 12 2006, 12:44

I did find this online, and I feel it is rather insulting to Americans:

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Americans supposdly weren't going to know the reference. I knew what a philosopher was, and that the alcemists were considered them. Later on I learned the Philosopher's Stone was what the alcemists were trying to achieve.

From http://www.cosforums.com/archive/index.php?t-64869.html

If this is the reason for the name change, it is ridiculous
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptySun May 14 2006, 02:47

its bloomsburys fault
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptySun May 14 2006, 10:26

i wonder what JK thought of the name change. if i had written the book, i would have hated the name to be changed.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptySun Jun 11 2006, 02:57

Duuuude (yeah I haven't used that word in a bit now ) I happen to be an American and I take offense to that statement about what they said about us Americans.

I think I like Philosopher better than Sorceror. It makes for a better title and it makes more sense. Unfortunately, I don't have the PS copy I have the SS but I want to PS one just cuz it's the real title.

I hate that they stereo type us Americans. We're smarter than they give us credit for. ~sighs~

Anyway, that is kind of all I have to say here.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Jun 19 2006, 03:39

I think that statement is ridiculous. Im not american, but i can understand why americans would take offense at that - it is ridiculous!
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri Jun 23 2006, 04:21

Well I suppose the media thinks we Americans are unable to comprehend. It is a rather rude insult but we do get stereotyped a lot.
Jesse-if you want to read the PS I do have it in the closet lol!
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri Jun 23 2006, 12:39

Im american but I never really thought about it much...beisdes that comment I didn't really care what the title is..just having the actual book is fine by me! lol
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Jun 26 2006, 11:01

Yup now that I have been checking out the PS book, I like it better. Love the name haha and well yeah :D
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Jul 17 2006, 15:41

I personally don't mind the name difference...But I guess if I want to be more accurate I should be shouting "PHILOSOPHER!!! NOT SORCERER!!! MEHHHH" Okay maybe not the "meh" part, but we all know that I just loooooooooove "Meh"

What else do you like better about it, Jesse? I mean, other than the name and some terms, and the cover, is anything really different? Or is it just the smell of originalness lol.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyTue Jul 18 2006, 14:26

Okay thats totally rude! I happy to be an American and i am just as smart as people my age from other countries i totally know what a philospher is!
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri Jul 28 2006, 07:19

In a Barnes and Noble interview, March 19, 1999, JK Rowling said below on this subject:

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Why did they change the name of the book from HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE to HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE in the US?

Well, once again that was my American editor's choice. He felt "philosopher's stone" gave a false impression of what the book was about. He wanted something more suggestive of magic in the title, so we tried a few alternatives and my favorite was "sorcerer's stone."

interview found here: http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/1999/0399-barnesandnoble.html
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Jul 31 2006, 08:00

Yeah I read that. And I guess Sorcerer's is a bit more magic inspiring than Philosopher's..oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Aug 07 2006, 02:42

Yeah, it does, but Philosopher just makes more sense, because it is a Philosopher's stone and yeah...

Sorry, I'm not making much sense, but I just could never understand the logic behind the name change...
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Aug 07 2006, 07:07

JKR said it one some site interview once upon a time that I read....something the publisher said to change, and JKR said "Okay, let's change it" and yep.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Aug 07 2006, 10:05

but if it were my book, i'd be quite miffed if someone wanted me to change something just for the sake of it...even though having a beta is a good thing...
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon Aug 14 2006, 11:38

I think it is silly how they changed the name - i mean - JK gave it athat name for a reason right?
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyThu Jul 19 2007, 15:18

Ok I know this post is old but I have some thoughts. I agree that "Sorcerer" makes it sound more magical but anybody who knows anything about alchemy knows that alchemist search for the philosophers stone. I watch Fullmetal Alchemist and their always talking about it, its kind of the point of the show. I didnt realize it at first when I saw the movie because there was no real emphasis on the fact the Dumbledore dabbed in alchemy and so sorcerers stone made sense. But now knowing more of the background to the story, philosophers stone makes a whole lot more sense. It figures they would dumb it down for us Americans with the bad rap we have but come on...I think we couldve figured that out.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyFri Jul 20 2007, 02:28

Fullmetal alchemist is sooooooooo cool!!!! I to think its silly how they changed it but they did. Maybe they just thought that because americans have different works for some things the english do then it should be changed.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptySat Dec 29 2007, 09:57

Jo said that she regrets changing the title. It does kinda get confusing when ur on international sites but I don't think thats such a big deal.
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptyMon May 18 2009, 07:23

I'm only 11,and I grew up on "Sorserers Stone" snape philosophers stone/sourcerers stone 163925 *poof*
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PostSubject: Re: philosophers stone/sourcerers stone   philosophers stone/sourcerers stone EmptySun Aug 15 2010, 23:50

I like JK's reason a lot more. But yea it's like how they changed some of the terms because we Americans wouldn't know what certain things were in the book. Just pick up a freaking dictionary. Is it really that hard to look up a word? Why change things?
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